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March 07, 2006

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You described so accurately in theory the situation that we fled in reality. Perhaps our new church plant (most of us out of the aforementioned church) has now swung too far in the opposite direction (no lead pastor at all) but we had enough of the CEO, control freak, my-way-or-the-highway kind of leadership. We had very little of the theory that you mention when planting our church, but we are dedicated to listening to each others' visions for ministry and trusting that these desires are planted in us by God for his purposes. And we try to practice the corporate discipline of discernment. We have struggled from time to time because we lack a central figure to help cutivate us and the systems and networks of the church. But it seems that when we are struggling the most with these things, someone receives what they need in order to take over the tough job of pastoral responsibility for a time. Because we are a small church, we have this luxury. It would not be possible in most mid-size to largish churches.

Perhaps one of the most important qualities that a good pastor could have is the ability to listen and listen well, laying aside as much of his own agenda in humility as is humanly possible. This kind of listening understands that for a congregation to be truly invested in their church, their goals and dreams that stem from love for God should be watered, fertilized, pruned, and cared for tenderly. This is the kind of pastor I would welcome to lead me.

Tim, thanks for a good summary and recap of the central themes of the cohort--that God's future is among his people.

I agree with Linda too that we pastors lack the ability to listen well. How can we cultivate among leaders the disciplines to listen well with the people God has given to the faith community? And what would be the best way to learn to do the corporate discipline of discernment?

How would I government a church?

First in all, I would Apply God’s Vision for my Ministry. I would have to be a true leader and to see that the Church have true leaders and people that have grasped God vision for their life’s ministry and living the vision. I would like to think there our two groups of people that would support me, the first is the Teachers and they are the visionaries. The second is the volunteers, they have good vision that I would look into. God has given me a vision to work with the teenagers and to have a good youth Ministry. I would work with the Youth Pastor and with an open heart. The vision that God have given to me is to work with each staff and to government the programs that we have in the Church. They are a good person that is call into the ministry; some senior pastor does not understand God vision for the ministries they are trying to lead. Some churches have little impact in there community or in the lives of their congregants. Now it is important to have areas is decade to growth. As a pastor I need to be aware of the importance of the vision and the clear understanding of my purpose for each individual in the church. Is not just to post a two-line mission statement in the weekly program, which is not good enough. All church has basically the same mission. God has give me a Great Commission and his vision to work a effective through worship, evangelism, discipleship, stewardship, community service and relationships, is some of the vision that god have giving to me. Now all church has the same vision, Than God must intend for his church to compete with each other for people, money, personnel, property, etc. But that would creates a unhealthy in our church and desire to show up” or ‘defeat brothers and sisters lets take our eyes off both the prize and the enemy. The Scripture is quite clear that we should not compete, but we should love each other and serve each other, we are the same body that we work for the same goals. The Kingdom is not about our personal or group accomplishment but it is how we work together for the Kingdom of God. I am a Ordained Pastor. I don’t have a P-H-D or a Doctor degree or fancy college education. All I know is that God has called me . To teach and to lead his people in truth and in love. In his word, the word of God. If you are looking for someone that has a P-H-D or a Doctor degree or fancy college education that’s not me. But if your looking for a man that God has called, that’s me. Because of all the people in the Bible, God’s holy word was all called by God.

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